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The Web Designer’s Guide to Comparing Photoshop and Fireworks

The Web Designer’s Guide to Comparing Photoshop and Fireworks

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  • Programs Discussed: Fireworks & Photoshop
  • Tut Type: Comparison Guide
  • Versions: CS3 and above
This entry is part 1 of 8 in the Fireworks Pro Series Session
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Today, we’ll be taking a deeper look at the key differences between Photoshop and Fireworks and what they mean to web designers. This article is intended to be a guide for anyone trying to understand the benefits and drawbacks of each application. Our goal: to help designers to better understand their options when it comes to picking their graphics application of choice.

We posted a Reader’s Poll on this topic, so be sure to cast your own vote on that post as well!

Let’s start this off by listing off the pro’s and con’s of each program. For most designers, Fireworks is the lesser known, so we’ll start there:


The Benefits of Using Fireworks

Fireworks is a graphics application, just like Photoshop… but the “target user” of the program is much different. The main reason that people pick Fireworks is because it’s built specifically for web designers. It’s lightweight, moves fast (even on older computers), and is easier to learn than Photoshop if you’re new to either program. Because it’s made for web designers, it’s more likely to grow over time to become more suited to this industry. It also means that if you’re just starting out, you won’t be bothered with any of the complex UI or steep learning curve that you might find in Photoshop.

Here are some specific reasons you might pick Fireworks:

Master Pages (and multiple pages / states)

Fireworks Master Pages

The Master Page feature allows you to set consistent site elements that you want to appear on each “page”. The Multiple Pages feature allows you to create as many child-pages within that same template. This is super powerful because it acts very similar to the way a real website works. In fact, the handling of Pages and States in a Fireworks file is intended to mimic the behavior of a live web-page. Some elements are fixed (like navigation, branding, backgrounds, etc.), and some elements change from one page to the next (content columns, photos, titles, etc.). Sure, you can accomplish this in Photoshop too by using Layer Groups or multiple PSD files, but the organization and UI surrounding these features in Fireworks is more natural. Handling universal changes in Fireworks is quicker because of it.

Oh, you can also detach a page from the Master if you want to create custom design elements, which makes it flexible enough to deal with even the most complex websites.

Internal Linking

Fireworks Web Layers Linking

Internal linking is just what it sounds like – In Fireworks, you have the ability to specify “hot spots” within your site that link to the various pages (mentioned above). You can even link to external URLs if you wish. The original idea for this was to allow designers to actually design a site in Fireworks and then “export” it as code. The jury is still out on whether the exported code is useful, but this feature is fantastic if you just want to export a file as a PDF for a client or art director to flip through quickly. This makes it easy to do rapid prototyping within Fireworks without ever needing to write a line of code.

Intelligent Style Management

Fireworks Styles

Styles in Fireworks are very similar to CSS on a webpage. Each element can have a fill, stroke, font, and effect and then have it saved as a Style that can then be reused and modified the same way cascading stylesheets work. Edit the parent “style”, and all elements that are using that style are changed. This is particularly effective when dealing with multiple instances of text blocks across a site. Update one and you will update them all. Again – this is a great time saving tool.

Better Vector Tools

Fireworks Shapes

Photoshop offers some very rudimentary vector editing tools, but Fireworks brings a lot of the native functionality of Illustrator into their own UI. The best tool (for web designers) is probably the “rounded rectangle” – which includes control points for each corner – making it easy to quickly make changes to a rounded rectangle. You can make one corner rounded and the others not – you can change the radius as well, something that Photoshop can’t do yet.

Libraries

Symbols, styles, and vector shapes are packaged into libraries that you can re-use in other projects. This is great for designers that find themselves re-using common elements and styles. It also means that you can share your libraries with other designers – which is especially useful if you are working with large design teams where each designer needs access to the same libraries.

Better Grouping

Photoshop allows you to group elements into Layer Groups – but it’s done manually and can become tedious over time. Grouping in Fireworks is done more naturally: you simply select a handful of elements and then hit “Group”. This generally means your files will be organized a little better, and overall it saves time relative to Photoshop’s manual grouping method.

Better Gradients

Fireworks Gradients

Here is another instance where Fireworks simply improves upon what Photoshop has to offer. Instead of a handful of gradient tools, Fireworks includes a wide range of ways to tweak and manage gradients until they are exactly what you’re looking for.

Better Image Optimization

Photoshop has some basic “Save for Web” tools, but Fireworks expands on these in a way that’s catered towards how web designers actually work. Side by side comparisons reveal lower file sizes when saving from Fireworks, which is crucial to image-heavy websites; PNG-8 (with transparency) is fully supported too, which Photoshop doesn’t support yet!

Learn Quicker

If you’ve been using Photoshop for years, Fireworks is going to feel alien to you… but most people who haven’t used either program agree that Fireworks is a lot easier to learn. Photoshop is designed for photographers and graphic designers… which means that a lot of tools are included that web designers don’t necessarily need. The UI overload that Photoshop users are used to is reduced greatly in Fireworks, which makes it pretty simple to pick up for anyone willing to put in some extra time.

Faster Performance

What do you get when you remove all of the extra functionality that Photoshop offers? Smaller file sizes that move a LOT faster. Fireworks files (.PNG format) can contain a lot more complexity than .PSD files, but they perform better on most computers, which means less time waiting for your CPU to crunch graphics and more time spent designing.

A lot of these other features also mean that you can actually do things in Fireworks that you can’t do in Photoshop – like rapidly prototyping a website or AIR app, creating interactive PDFs, move back and forth with Flash, and quickly slice and dice a site into web-ready files.

Agencies Are Asking For It

“In a recent Society of Digital Agencies (SODA) job skills survey almost 20% of agencies are looking for FW skills.The year before the number was so small as to be negligible.” – Tom Green (from our poll post)


The Drawbacks of Using Fireworks

  • The industry is still largely biased towards Photoshop. This means you’ll almost always need to know PS when you work with other designers.
  • Complex Photoshop files don’t always open properly.
  • Text Anti-aliasing could be improved.
  • It’s missing a lot of the graphics tools that Photoshop-users are familiar with, which means that there are always going to be reasons to open up Photoshop.

The Benefits of Using Photoshop

This list is going to be smaller because we’ve already gone over the main comparison points – but here are a few more arguments for using Photoshop instead of Fireworks.

It’s the Flagship

Adobe Photoshop Flagship

Let’s face it, Fireworks suffers a bit of the “redheaded step child” syndrome. Only in recent versions (CS4 and CS5) has Fireworks received meaningful feature updates. While this bodes well for the future, logic would argue that Adobe is far less likely to give Fireworks more attention than Photoshop simply because Photoshop sells more times each year, for more money. Photoshop is also an older program; which means that it benefits from a longer history of user feedback. Fireworks is still growing by leaps and bounds each new version that comes out, but because Photoshop is Adobe’s flagship product in the CS suite, expect it to receive the bulk of the major upgrades in the future.

Stability

Historically, Fireworks users report more crashes and file-problems than Photoshop users (although CS5 brought a lot more stability). Photoshop has it’s fair share of problems, but it’s worth considering that you’re a bit more likely to run into headaches when dealing with Fireworks exclusively.

It’s the Industry Standard

While there is a growing demand for people who know how to use Fireworks, the demand for web designers that work with Photoshop is universal. Nearly all major web projects use Photoshop in at least some capacity, and having at least an intermediate knowledge of PS is going to be a job requirement for most web design positions where a team is involved. While your freelance clients might not care what program you work in, there’s a much better chance of being able to exchange Photoshop files with your peers than Fireworks files.

It’s What You’re Familiar With

Perhaps the strongest argument in favor of using Photoshop is that you’ve already learned it and it’s a comfortable part of your workflow. As we saw on our discussion at the Reader’s Poll, the vast majority of people who started with Photoshop have stayed with Photoshop. Why? Because it works! And like the old saying goes, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it”. Learning a new program takes time and money – and if you don’t have any pressing reason to start using Fireworks, there’s really no reason to make the switch right now.

There’s a Wealth of Tutorials and Resources

Let’s face it, while there are a lot of tutorials out there for Fireworks, Photoshop tutorials and resources outnumber Fireworks based content on the web by at least 10-to-1. What does this mean for you? Your likelihood of finding awesome educational tuts (like at PSDTuts!) is far greater your chances of finding the same content for Fireworks. For many, this is enough to balance out the fact that Photoshop is harder to learn.

It’s A One-Stop Shop

A designer that uses Fireworks will usually still have to use Photoshop to create any advanced graphics… but most Photoshop users don’t bother ever opening up Fireworks. Why? Because they don’t need to. All of the core functionality is right there in Photoshop. While Fireworks might have a couple features that have been “improved”, Photoshop users aren’t missing them because they never even knew they existed ;)


The Drawbacks of Using Photoshop

  • Larger file sizes = slower performance.
  • No native “web tools” beyond the ability to save images for the web.
  • It’s more expensive – $699 for Photoshop / $299 for Fireworks. Keep in mind this isn’t just a one-time purchase – updates are more expensive as well!

Putting This All in Context

Adobe Photoshop versus Fireworks

At the dawn of the internet, web designers were forced to use whatever programs they had handy to create their websites. The earliest websites began as simple things and didn’t require much in terms of graphical prowess. These web designers of yore simply made due with whatever graphic design software they had been using or trained in.

Now, however, web design is an essential part of owning just about any business. In fact, just about everyone these days knows something about designing a web page. There are free online web page programs, software designed to make web design easy, and then there are the more serious programs created for professional web designers.

As technology advances, more products have been released and the decision of which program to pick has become difficult. For those who have been in web design for a long time though, new software holds little appeal over the tried, tested and true software that you’ve been trained on. But what direction should a new web designer to go with? The fork in the road can be confusing and overwhelming without a map to follow.

The Bigger Picture

Adobe Photoshop has always been a cornerstone of the graphic design community making it a natural choice for the transition from print to web design. Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator are the programs used to train new graphic designers. A firm foundation is these two is usually required before a school will allow a student to transition into other multimedia software.

When you ask web designers what software they often use the common responses are Photoshop, Fireworks and Dreamweaver. There is no one program more popular than another since there are various reasons a designers learns what software over another. Much is said about how Adobe Photoshop and Macromedia Fireworks are the same for web designers, but this broad overview gives neither software the justice it deserves.

Now that Adobe has acquired Macromedia, it can be assumed that Fireworks will continue to resemble Photoshop even more with time and future updates. However, they will never be the same and understanding their fundamental differences will help you make a decision.

There are other web design software options (like Pixelmator for Mac, ULead, Xara, Stone, and others), but these two are the major players and the most debated.


A Deeper Look at Photoshop

First and foremost, Photoshop was designed for editing photos. This makes it the go to software for photographers and anyone who works extensively with photographs. The designers of Photoshop never intended for the software to be the main program for web designers, although it includes plenty of features to help out web designers. Photoshop is perfect for designers who do more than just web design as its cross platform / cross media capabilities make it quite versatile.

Photoshop has a reputation as well. It is the most popular and respected graphic design software available. It has become a market standard and many clients expect designers to use it. It may take some explaining if you want to submit a Fireworks .png file instead of a Photoshop .psd document.

When it comes to color management, you cannot get a better program than Photoshop. Adobe has professional colors down to a science.

Of course, no software is perfect and Photoshop is no exception. The software is large and burdensome and difficult for any computer to manage. The memory involved in running the software is large enough, but once you start working with high resolution files you can run into problems. Photoshop crashes are legendary and expect long loading times and occasional freezes, unless you have a brilliant computer to work with.

Not only that, the complicated user interface and features are daunting and intimidating. The software does so much, but for the average user most of its capabilities are buried under menus and foreign terminology. Photoshop is a difficult program to learn on one’s own, and costly and time consuming to go to an expert for help.

While Photoshop layers can be very handy and are an organized person’s dream, sometimes they can be frustrating. Especially since you cannot simply click to select document elements. Navigation through the layers is essential. This can make for an annoying learning curve and a time consuming process if you do not label your layers well.


A Deeper Look at Fireworks

Macromedia Fireworks was designed especially for web designers. The user interface is easy to use and navigate. While learning Adobe Photoshop can be a long and frustrating process, picking up Fireworks takes hardly any time at all. The software is more intuitive than Photoshop, and more flexible to use.

Fireworks was created to get the most out of file size since web pages cannot handle the larger graphics that Photoshop was built for. This can save time in changing file size and resolution properties during design.

While Fireworks will never be as good at editing photos as Photoshop, it does have its own photo optimization capabilities. These work just fine for many a web designer.

Another big difference in the two programs is that a web designer is creating more than one page at a time. In Photoshop you typically focus on one page at a time. With Fireworks, you can design multiple pages at once, each with multiple layers. It doesn’t take as much memory to work multiple pages as it would in Photoshop either.

Designers like the fact that Fireworks is capable of working with both photos and vector images. This is like using Photoshop and Illustrator at the same time. Besides the price tag on Fireworks is much more appealing than that of Photoshop.

Fireworks has its share of crashes and bugs like any other program, but Adobe has stated it plans to address these issues with future updates now that it has taken over Macromedia.


Why Not Use Both?

I was hoping you’d ask! In a perfect world, it would make sense to wireframe a site in Fireworks, move to Photoshop for advanced detailing, and then use Fireworks to compose the site and export it for the web… in practice though, this doesn’t quite work. Lots of people choose to do this for specific elements (like saving background images from Fireworks to reduce file size), but too often .PSD files won’t open perfectly in Fireworks. Layer groups get mixed up, layer styles get erased, and frustration ensues. I can recommend using Fireworks on a case-by-case basis (esp to use the PNG8 and save-for-web improvements), but don’t expect the dual-program system to become a reliable part of your own workflow until Adobe can resolve these cross-program issues.

With that said, we’ve heard from at least a couple designers at our Reader’s Poll post that use both programs side by side, so it really comes down to your own workflow preferences.


The Bottom Line

If you are already well trained in either Photoshop or Fireworks, it is probably best to continue using that program for your needs.

In an ideal world, web designers would have the time, money and energy to learn both pieces of software and use them for their strengths and disregard their weaknesses. Of course, even if you have the money to invest in dual programs – you probably don’t have the time to spend getting familiar with how each of them work.

If you are already well trained in either Photoshop or Fireworks, it is probably best to continue using that program for your needs. If you are a beginner and trying to decide which one is best to start with, Fireworks is easier to use and learn but Photoshop will help you become a better all around designer than if you limit yourself to just Fireworks.

Personal priorities, goals and limitations will certainly factor into your final decision. Having a lot of patience and downtime would certainly help if you want to master all the amazing options Photoshop has to offer. If you want to get started quickly and don’t want to waste time becoming familiar with the process, then Fireworks is your best bet.

In the web design world, either program is commonly used and you won’t be faulted for choosing one over another. There are plenty of free tutorials available online for both of these programs as well as training books and classes.

In the web design industry, you will find designers who swear by Photoshop and others who swear by Fireworks. Listen to their pros and cons, but ultimately the decision is up to you. There is no overwhelming evidence that one program is better than another, just works differently for various users and talents.


About the Author(s)

Brandon Jones (the site editor for Webdesigntuts+) wrote the introduction and “comparison points” section of this article. Greg Bates contributed by writing the additional background information for each program as well as providing the industry research.

Greg Bates is a Sophmore at CSULB and currently majoring in Information Systems but also takes classes on the side for web and graphic design. He is a writer for an online magazine StyleCeo which deals with fashion. He also builds websites from scratch for different online businesses and corporations. In his spare time, he enjoys sports, being with his girl, or just doing some freelance work. If you like his work and you’d like for him to work as a freelancer for you, you can contact him at http://twitter.com/TheAllureIs_.

We’ll be highlighting some of the lesser known features of Fireworks over the next month, so Subscribe (at the top of the site) to get notified of when the new tutorials and screencasts get published!


Continue the Discussion

We’ve already had nearly 100 great comments at the Reader’s Poll post, but if you have any comments, suggestions, or questions, post them here as well! The great part about an article like this is that it can bring together other web designers to share their own experiences and workflows… so how do you use these programs?

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  • http://DavidBecerra.com David B.

    I had been thinking about trying out fireworks for a while now and I think it’s time to give it a shot. Great read, thanks!

  • http://heavymark.com Christopher B.

    Non Fireworks users always dismiss the program out of ignorance. It’s great to see an unbias piece comparing the too. Though as the quote suggested people shouldn’t wont change to another program even if it will be a superior tool for their needs. Old habits die with the person.

  • DejanS7

    I’ve recently switched to fireworks and i find it extremely useful. Most of the times i can do the same stuff (even faster) like in photoshop, and if i can’t i then just do it in PS and switchback to fireworks. So when it comes to web design, i vote for FW <3 ! :)

  • Jiri
  • http://ahermosilla.com Andres Hermosilla

    I used to use Fireworks back in 2004 before Adobe bought Macromedia, but after starting doing more design work I switched over to Photoshop. I thought Fireworks was great when I was using for web design then but now because of the saturation of Photoshop I go with PS.

  • http://connorcrosby.me Connor Crosby

    Very interesting comparison. I use Photoshop but it is not for building whole sites. I only use it for making icons and such.

  • LaToya

    Thanks :D I’ve been trying to find out what fireworks is good for as far as web design for a while

  • http://www.ireckon.com Warwick

    I’m a fireworks user for websites, and just use Photoshop if I want to do any graphic editing. It’s good to see a review that just doesn’t say Fireworks is less of a image editor… Nice Post

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  • http://contempographicdesign.com Chris Robinson

    Still waiting for Adobe to get it together and add “InDesign like” stylesheets to Photoshop, would be a huge time saver.

    • http://www.StoddardDesign.com colin stoddard

      I’m still waiting for channels to be available in the layers palette. They promised that would happen years ago.

  • # Fez

    Great Article!
    It is rare to find such an unbiased comparison elsewhere on the web. Great approach too :)

  • Fly

    Thank you :) This article is very helpful.

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  • Carlos

    This guy from digitallabs.tv and augustinteractive.com seems to use only Fireworks for his projects and his work is stunning! You guys from Webdesign Tuts should invite him for writing some FW tutorials :) Just a tip!

  • Lukasz

    I think Ill finally do it and download trial version of Fireworks.

    The only problem I can see with it is a additional cost. As you stated, if you create your own graphics for the projects, you will still need a Photoshop. So for most designers its more of an convenient addon.

  • http://www.twitter.com/herihehe Heri Hehe

    Where can i find firework tuts here on tutsplus? Maybe i can change my mind if i find it useful and handy.

  • Matthias Krok

    great article! I use Fireworks all the time and Photoshop mostly to open PSD files I get sent – save them as PNG and open this PNG in Fireworks.

    Photoshop is for graphic design – Fireworks is for web design. (as expressed in the article)

    No one would use Word for code editing… if MS Word would add features like syntax highlighting, code collapse and other coder features – well, then it might be something like Photoshop is now: You CAN do full websites with Photoshop – but you’re not supposed to.

    Historically Adobe never cared for web developers. They didn’t invent Dreamweaver nor Fireworks. They just bought Macromedia. Adobes “solution” for web developers was called “GoLive” – remember ? Photoshop is from the same company that made “GoLive” – that should tell something about how well suited Photoshop is for web design…

  • John

    Interesting comparison! I’m new to the web design industry and I’ve always wondered about Fireworks. I apprieciate the great article!

    Thanks

    P.S. Thanks Jiri for the resource links!

  • http://www.jacoblee.co.uk Jacob Lee

    “The jury is still out on whether the exported code is useful”

    No it’s not. Exported code sucks balls

    • http://themeforest.net/user/epicera/portfolio?ref=epicera Brandon Jones
      Author

      LOL – I was trying to be polite ;)

      • http://www.jacoblee.co.uk Jacob Lee

        Ha- sorry the subtleties of your delivery were lost on me :)

    • http://leandroacosta.com/portfolio/ Leandro Acosta

      Could not have said it better myself ;)

      I’ve read articles stating the generated code is “standards-compliant” as well, pfft! Are you kidding me?!?!

  • http://www.anoncreative.com Danny

    I think after reading this that I’m going to spend a little time out of work trying to get back into Fw – The features pointed out such as Master pages are things I didn’t know about from my previous experiences with it an they sound like they’ll really come in handy!

  • http://nataliaventre.com Natalia Ventre

    Good article. Fireworks has solid web features, I like the idea of starting a prototype in FW and then keep working on the visual elements in the same software. The combination of vector – pixel manipulation is useful, but at the same time I find FW harder to use than Illustrator or Photoshop.

    I think that the guides and rulers could be better, in that aspect Pixelmator is much more precise.

  • http://www.freedomstudios.co.za Graham

    I really like the way Fireworks compresses files and give better file sizes, but I just can’t seem to get working with it.

    I am probably a Photoshop junkie through and through. All my web design is done in Photoshop.

  • http://dsgnwrks.pro Justin Sternberg

    “While Photoshop layers can be very handy and are an organized person’s dream, sometimes they can be frustrating. Especially since you cannot simply click to select document elements. Navigation through the layers is essential. This can make for an annoying learning curve and a time consuming process if you do not label your layers well.”

    An extremely useful and not well-known pro-tip:
    cmd-click with the select tool on “document element” and it will select it (in the same way it works when you have the “auto-select” box checked).

    There are also many great shortcuts for navigating through the layers:

    To scroll through the layers in the Layers palette, hold down your Alt (Win) / Option (Mac) key and use the left and right bracket keys ( [ and ] ). The right bracket key scrolls upward through the layers, and the left bracket key scrolls down.

    Move Layers Up And Down The Layer Stack
    To move a layer up the layer stack, hold down your Ctrl (Win) / Command (Mac) key and press the right bracket key. The more times you press the right bracket key, the higher up you’ll move the layer.

    Two great shortcut resources:

    http://www.photoshopessentials.com/basics/layer-shortcuts/
    http://www.webdesignerwall.com/tutorials/photoshop-secret-shortcuts/

    • Bruce

      You, sir, are THE MAN. That cmd+click tip is something I should’ve known a LOOOONG time ago.

  • http://www.designpanoply.com Design Panoply

    I’ve always wondered the benefits of using Fireworks. It seems like the main point of the article is this:

    If you have been using Photoshop, keep using it. If you have used neither, try them both and then use Photoshop until Fireworks is better.

    LOL

    I’ll definitely have to give it a look for the file saving improvements though. Thanks! :)

    • http://themeforest.net/user/epicera/portfolio?ref=epicera Brandon Jones
      Author

      Yep – while the bottom line in the article is “use what you know”, I think there are still a lot of people who are at least curious what the other program has to offer that they are missing… I don’t expect an article like this to cause a mass conversion to another program, but it’s good to be informed of what’s available to use as designers. If anything, when your non-designer friend asks you the difference between Fireworks and Photoshop, now you’ll actually sound like a pro ;)

  • http://blog.app-juice.com App Juice

    I personally think Fireworks in some cases is easier to use than photoshop, but over all photoshop is faster due keyboard short cuts and plug-ins. But the price is too much

  • http://baliniz.com Baliniz

    Fireworks seemed interesting, but I’m already familiar with Photoshop ^ ^,
    So I still will use it to help my work :)
    maybe later I’ll learn Fireworks also (probably)

  • Andre

    I’ve tried to use fireworks, but every time I freak out and go back to photoshop and illustrator

    • Jason

      I know you.

      I love Fireworks. But the developers I work with have requested that I use Photoshop because it is what they are more familiar with.

      I will still use Fireworks for wire-framing, prototyping and brainstorming.

  • http://www.ballyhooblog.com Andrew Wilson

    Couple of very misleading statements here…

    “You can make one corner rounded and the others not – you can change the radius as well, something that Photoshop can’t do yet.”

    –Huh? Yes PS can.

    “PNG-8 (with transparency) is fully supported too, which Photoshop doesn’t support yet!”

    –Huh? Yes PS does.

    • http://themeforest.net/user/epicera/portfolio?ref=epicera Brandon Jones
      Author

      1. Rounded corners: Yes, you can do this in Photoshop, but it requires manually editting the vector points/paths – in Fireworks this can be done by simply adjusting numeric parameters ;)
      2. Full “Alpha Transparency” isn’t supported in PS the way it is in FW.

  • Brett

    I used Fireworks a few years ago and then occasionally I load it up when I get my new software upgrades just to see what’s new but overall I feel it isn’t worth the effort to start it. The benefits you mentioned here are great…but beyond that there really aren’t any reasons to use it over Photoshop at all because Photoshop can do all of that and then WAYYYY more.

    My thoughts are that Adobe should just take the features that make Fireworks worth using and integrate them into Photoshop then eliminate Fireworks entirely. I feel that the user interface of Fireworks is less intuitive than Photoshop. Those web features such as png-8 transparency, master pages, style management and all that is great but could probably be integrated into Photoshop and then Fireworks would be even less needed.

    It’s a neat program but it just doesn’t offer enough to make it worthwhile. I like being able to get it all done in one program.

    • http://themeforest.net/user/epicera/portfolio?ref=epicera Brandon Jones
      Author

      My thoughts are that Adobe should just take the features that make Fireworks worth using and integrate them into Photoshop then eliminate Fireworks entirely.

      I agree with this – I’ve always felt that you should be able to do something like, run Photoshop in “Fireworks mode” where the UI changes slightly to meet the needs of web designers and the FW features are all available.

      Good comment Brett!

      • http://www.communitymx.com Jim Babbage

        “My thoughts are that Adobe should just take the features that make Fireworks worth using and integrate them into Photoshop then eliminate Fireworks entirely.”

        I have to disagree with the above comment. The workflow differences between the applications are quite noticeable (hence some of the frustration for Photoshop users). There are fundamental differences such as pages, states and intuitive vector tools/features. These are areas that just aren’t part of the PS workflow – nor should they be, IMHO. Some of these features would hot be “slight changes to the UI”.

        This was a great article overall and some fantastic discussion on the topic. It’s been a great read.

  • http://www.reinegger.net Andre Reinegger

    This is a good article, but it only scratches the surface of what Fireworks is capable of. Here comes a list of 50 reasons to prefer Fireworks.

    http://www.reinegger.net/50_reasons_not_to_use_photoshp_for_webdesign.html

    • http://www.islanddesignstudio.com/ Karen

      @ Andre – I Mentioned this article on Linkedin and got a link to this article, I see you found it before I did! :)

  • http://www.filippomangione.com/ Phil_M

    FireWork is underestimated.

  • Jayki

    Fireworks needs many improvement before I would ever consider devoting my time to learning it, for what it’s worth, the advantages of fireworks doesn’t equate to the value I’d get with my time (nor the price), but it’s good to know what it offers and there will be a time when Fireworks will be beneficial to any designer’s work flow. Especially since each new version of Photoshop is even more processor intensive, I look forward to a drastically improved version of Fireworks.

    PS: @Brandon, your WordPress themes are amazing and I’ve bought two of them, top quality – keep up the good work :)

  • http://www.mlwebco.com Michael Locke

    Great article. I’ve been solely using FW since the late 90′s (the Macromedia Suite – Fireworks 1). People are surprised when the find out I don’t know use Photoshop.

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  • Jafar

    Adobe should just combine both of them into one program and call it Photoworks or Fireshop…

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  • Mike

    I use Photoshop almost exclusively for web design. It isn’t perfect for it in many ways. But when it comes to adding that spice and quality I can’t find a replacement for it. I’ve been trialing Drawit from Bohemian Coding and this “could” be a great replacement for many of my tasks. BUT! it isn’t stable enough for me and has some annoying quirks.

    Adobe need to either overhaul Fireworks or roll the best bits into Photoshop (Individual rounded corners would be a godsend)!

  • Ben W

    Key command for grouping layers in Photoshop:

    1. Select the layers you need to group (by holding Shift or Command and click)
    2. Hit Command and “G”.

  • Andy

    Nice stance on both products without seeming biased Brandon. I think some users might be fully adept in Photoshop, but might try some work in Fireworks after reading this article.

    I personally love Fireworks. I was never a big fan of ImageReady, if anybody remembers that beast…

  • http://www.techwench.com techwench

    i was trying fireworks but its so difficult now i’m going with ps again
    thanks!!!
    …..

  • http://www.caseyhunsaker.com Casey Hunsaker

    I find myself using PS and FW both, depending on what I am trying to do. However, CS5 has made me more of a PS user than before. I love all the new features it has!

  • http://formfett.net Magnus

    Comparing Fireworks to Photoshop and you don’t even mention Layer Comps in Photoshop?

    • http://themeforest.net/user/epicera/portfolio?ref=epicera Brandon Jones
      Author

      Layer Comps are great in theory, but I’ve found them incredibly frustrating with any project requiring any serious level of complexity… which isn’t to say that Pages in FW are terribly better, but it seems apparent to me that Fireworks Pages make a bit more sense than PS Layer Comps in most web projects. We’ll be exploring this in depth in the months to come though, so don’t think I’ve forgotten about this feature ;)

  • http://gfxrage.com Eddie Zamora

    I have been using fireworks since earlier stages for developing websites, i had use photoshop and glimp and illustrator, indesign etc… Name the tool i had try it. However if we look into time line fireworks is still on a mid stage not even closer to photoshop which is a dinosaur, but fireworks is growing even stronger with each release. I think it is well done for his purpose which is drafting, mocking and finally cleaning the web design for release.

    great input about the topic Brandon, appreciate the time you spend reviewing them individually.

    kind regards

  • http://www.janzaskolny.eu Jan Zaškolný

    I agree that it would be best if we could use both Photoshop and Fireworks simultaneously. I discovered Fireworks recently and some features are really awsome!

  • ikechukwu

    great article and great to read everyone’s comment on the issue. i have learnt a lot(in the midst of the laughing). i use photoshop and love the app and really haven’t used fireworks extensively however i feel there the need for both software to satisfy their target audience. i guess when fireworks begins to get close to photoshop, adobe would simply scrap it in favor of their flagship app

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  • http://www.ersintarhan.com Ersin Tarhan

    So how is easiest?
    I am disabilities designer. :)

  • http://www.bassettboy.com Ryan Bassett

    Thanks for this excellent roundup. I enjoyed this article.

    I think one thing that would be sweet would be to be able to share your color palletes and gradient files from PS to FW. That would make me use Fireworks more!

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  • http://www.alfredolopez.net Alfredo Lopez

    I started using FW for a mobile project not long ago. I was in a hurry to deliver it and I did not want to use Photoshop. FW allowed me to get the job done in less time and easy. I am still learning it. I think FW is the best program for web and mobile design.

  • Bithy

    I love fireworks specially its png format….

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  • http://googel.co.uk asda

    too complex and hard to understand u nerdy people and geeky people. LOOOOL Joking dont CRY :’(

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  • http://twitter.com/SWilliamsWebDev Sean Williams

    Photoshop for images, Fireworks for web